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Brexit debate: Chuka Umunna calls for fresh referendum as Jacob Rees Mogg warns against patronising UK voters - As it happened

Follow all the latest updates from The Independent's exclusive Brexit panel

Ashley Cowburn
Political Correspondent
Wednesday 11 July 2018 21:58 BST
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Welcome to the The Independent's politics liveblog, covering our exclusive panel discussion this evening on 100 days until the Brexit deal is done.

Political editor Joe Watts is speaking to leading voices from across the debate, including cabinet minister Andrea Leadsom, anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller, and prominent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg.

We are hearing from former attorney general Dominic Grieve, who became an unlikely leader of rebel Tories, Pro-EU Labour MP Chuka Umunna, and Labour Leave boss John Mills.​

The event is being livestreamed here.

See below for live updates

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Joe asks Dominic Grieve whether the Chequers agreement takes into account the issues he had. "If you don't ask, you don't get," he replies. He says if the PM could achieve what she set out in the Lancaster House, those would be "considerable achievements". 

He describes the Chequers statement as "realistic" 

He says the Labour party are as incoherent as the Conservative party on what they want. 

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Grieve says he doesn't get "worked up" about the European Court of Justice. 

He says rules decided by the ECJ will still act as a "benchmark" for businesses after Brexit. 

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One of the guests asks whether the Norway option is the best option for Britain. 

Gina Miller says she met with the Norwegian government, who said: "We want what you've got". She says Norway does sit on committees but at the same time they are rule-takers. 

Asked whether the Chequers agreement weakens the government, she says she has "no idea" why some of these conversations are still happening - and asks why we are repeating the "meaningless" phrases such as taking back control of our laws. 

She says the government should never have put such a complex decision in the hands of the people. 

She asks Leadsom to "give the country the summer off" and then ask the people to validate the government's negotiations. She accuses them of wasting taxpayers money - to an applause from the audience. 

Rees-Mogg says how dare Miller says the people are "too stupid" to make the decision.

He says general elections are complicated but we trust the British people to make the decision - and he says the referendum decision was likewise. He says the turnout was higher than any election since 1982.

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Asked whether the UK will be in a single market for goods, Leadsom says "no we're not" - rather a free trading agreement with goods. 

Leadsom says she agrees with Rees-Mogg - adding the country had a very serious debate and then the people decided. "We respect the decision of the people," she says. "Parliament overwhelmingly voted for people to have their say - a democratic decision."

Asked whether she sees the transition period being extended, Leadsom says: "No". Some of her colleagues in the cabinet have not been so clear. 

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Rees-Mogg is asked whether there is any situation he could imagine a second referendum - He says the possibility of a referendum in 30 years time could be on the cards, but rejects the idea of one in the coming years.

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Grieve says the country's tax revenues "will not be maintained" after Brexit when asked by a member of the audience. He says Rees-Moggs' model will deliver falling revenue and less money for our public services.

He says he agrees with Gina that the current issue is what sort of deal the government will get - "this is just about the most important decision we've made in post-war period - and getting it wrong could be dire".

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