I still love Bill despite his weaknesses, says Hillary women

Mary Dejevsky
Sunday 01 August 1999 23:02 BST
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MUSING AT length for the first time on her chequered marriage, Hillary Clinton blamed her husband's serial infidelity on his disturbed childhood and described his White House dalliance with Monica Lewinsky as "a sin of weakness" not "a sin of malice". Given his background, Mrs Clinton said stoically, it is remarkable he turned out as well as he did - and anyway, they still love each other.

"Yes, he has weaknesses. Yes, he needs to be more disciplined, but it is remarkable, given his background, that he turned out to be the kind of person he is, capable of such leadership," she said.

Talking of his childhood in Arkansas, where his presumed father died before he was born and his step-father was a wife-beating alcoholic, Mrs Clinton said: "He was so young, barely four, when he was scarred by abuse. There was terrible conflict between his mother and grandmother." Hinting at the therapy sessions she and her husband are supposed to have undergone, she explained: "A psychologist once told me that for a boy being in the middle of a conflict between two women is the worst possible situation. There is always a desire to please each one."

The US First Lady was interviewed by Lucinda Franks for the inaugural issue of Talk magazine, the new venture of the British-born editor, Tina Brown, which is underwritten by the Disney Corporation. The attention- grabbing look at the world's most scrutinised marriage was the latest volley in Talk's publicity campaign.

Equally, though, it may be seen as a gamble by Mrs Clinton, who is still deciding whether to run for the Senate for New York, to give sceptical voters answers to some of their more insistent questions before her campaign starts in earnest - questions such as "why does she stay with him?", "might she not be a little to blame?" and the widely circulating theory that there was a political payback for her in a share of his power.

Of the genuineness of their marriage, Mrs Clinton revealed with a tinge of regret, that until the Lewinsky scandal, she believed he had overcome his womanising. "I thought this was resolved 10 years ago," she said. "I thought he had conquered it; I thought he had understood it; but he didn't go deep enough or work hard enough."

And in an attempt to counter the impression that the marriage was just a succession of infidelities, she said of the period after his affair with the Arkansas nightclub singer, Gennifer Flowers, and before his relationship with Monica Lewinsky: "You know we did have a very good stretch - years and years of nothing."

Of her decision to stay, Mrs Clinton said he needed her to help him through his "dysfunction" and because, "we have love". She went on: "There has been enormous pain, enormous anger, but I have been with him half my life and he is a very, very good man. We just have a deep connection that transcends whatever happens."

She traced his affair to an accumulation of stresses and strains for both of them: the suicide of their mutual friend and White House official, Vince Foster, and the deaths of her father and his mother. But she also insisted that his prime motive in lying about the affair - it was the lying rather than the adultery that put his job on the line - was to protect her.

Sayings of A Feisty but Loyal First Lady

Hillary when asked on 20 January 1992 about Bill Clinton's alleged affair with Gennifer Flowers stressing that her support was not vacuous:

"I'm not sitting here like some little woman standing by my man like Tanny Wynette"

Hillary in a TV interview on 27 January, 1998

"I have learned a long time ago that the only people who count in any marriage are the two that are in it.

We know everything there is to know about each other and we understand and accept and love each other."

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